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#81 ZiP

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Objavljeno 22 junij 2012 - 19:25

FOX sprašuje Faranga o krizi v EU? lol



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#82 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 24 junij 2012 - 17:34

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Greece’s current account deficit declined by a remarkable 40.3 percent on an annual basis in the year’s first four months, while foreign direct investment also reversed its decline to post an increase, according to Bank of Greece data released on Friday.

The account deficit fell by 3.8 billion euros to 5.6 billion, while the trade deficit shrank by 2.5 billion year-on-year, due to the decline in the trade deficit, that does not include fuel and ships, by 1.25 billion euros (or 28.9 percent) and the slashing of net payment for ship acquisition by 737 million euros. Export receipts registered a 5.8 percent increase.

FDI posted a net inflow of 77 million euros in the year to April, against a net outpouring of 703 million euros in the same period last year, BoG data showed.

Tourism receipts dropped by a disappointing 12.2 percent on a yearly basis, or about 100 million euros, after the 9.8 percent decline in foreign tourist arrivals.

In April alone, tourism receipts fell by 8.4 percent and foreign tourist arrivals by 6.5 percent from April 2011.
http://www.ekathimer.../06/2012_448580

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#83 Thrivial

    ga najraje faše pod pazduho in pri tem konjsko prdi.

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Objavljeno 25 junij 2012 - 14:17

Khm, khm

*according to Bank of Greece*

:D

#84 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 25 junij 2012 - 15:03

ja sej, cajteng je tudi grški :D

#85 ana

    se rima na banana.

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Objavljeno 25 junij 2012 - 20:19

Ciper je zaprosil za pomoc.

#86 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 01:42

France’s new Socialist government is embarking on a series of risky experiments in business

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AFTER the French Socialists last came to power in 1981, under François Mitterrand, the new government went on a spree of nationalisations, taking over 36 banks and several industrial groups, before quietly abandoning the policy and even reprivatising a few firms.
Arnaud Montebourg, a left-wing politician who is now minister for “productive recovery”, fought hard against closures during the campaign. When Lejaby, a lingerie brand, made plans to shut its last French plant and move production to Tunisia, he came out in support of thebrassière tricolore (in the end LVMH, a luxury-goods group, rescued the bra factory).
Already, top foreign executives no longer want to join French firms. A new extra tax on dividends has further angered the business world.
Paris is full of rumours of hasty departures. PPR, a luxury-goods group which owns Gucci and Yves Saint Laurent, is reported to have plans to move its entire executive committee to offices in London as soon as this summer. Technip, a global oil-services firm, is rumoured to be about to move its official headquarters across the Channel. (PPR declined to comment, and Technip said it has no plans to move for now.) To the fury of a French member of parliament, David Cameron, Britain’s prime minister, this week promised to “roll out the red carpet” for French companies on the run from the new tax.
Tax is not the only threat to executive pay. Last week Pierre Moscovici, the finance minister, announced that pay for bosses of companies in which the French state holds the majority of shares will be capped at a flat rate of €450,000, or roughly 20 times the wage of the lowest-paid worker. The French experiment will no doubt be watched with interest around the rich world. In some cases it will lead to a 70% pay cut. Over time, the quality of management at these state firms, which had become more professional over the past decade, will surely suffer. Executives such as Guillaume Pepy, the boss of SNCF, the national railways, for instance, could secure a top position anywhere in his industry.
Most French business leaders don’t think that the government is deliberately targeting them. They reckon that its motives are purely political—and that the Socialists are simply not aware of the damage their plans will do (most ministers have hardly any experience of business). Besides, the 75% tax rate might never be implemented: France’s highest court may rule it unconstitutional later this year
http://www.economist.com/node/21557318

France going down, Cameron izpade največji boss :mafija: Ne vem zakaj se tuki ne uštulijo zravn še Italjani in Nemci in jim poberejo talente.

#87 disturber

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 06:06

a lohk povzameš, k težko razumem

#88 disturber

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 06:20

Oglej si sporočiloAdam Velkavrh, ob 20 junij 2012 - 19:29, rekši:

zgleda bo ciper naslednja drzava, ki bo rabila dodatna posojila (bailout), samo oni se ne bodo obrnili k EU, ampak k Rusiji, zakaj, k rdeckarjem morilcem komunistom!? Ker jim bo Rusija dala bolj ugoden kredit od EU, Mind Fuck indeed.

Brez nemskega pametovanja o protikriznih ukrepih, brez pogojevanja IMF, zgleda da so totally fucked ane :D

Lahko upamo samo, da bo Sber banka sodelovala pri dokapitalizaciji NLB in eventualnem prevzemu, to upam posebi zato, ker so zdaj prisotni na slovenskem trgu par mesecev s prevzemom Volksbanke.

sploh ne

ciper je zaprosil eu za 2 miljardi

#89 House

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 06:32

Nemci ne podpirajo bailoutov
http://www.guardian....d-misunderstood

#90 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 13:38

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EU unveils its vision for the future of monetary union


It includes the creation of a European treasury, which would have powers over national budgets.
  • Limits on the amount of debt individual countries can take on
  • Annual national budgets can be vetoed if they are likely to mean a country exceeding its debt limits
  • The eurozone borrowing money collectively "could be explored"
  • A European treasury office to be set up to control a central budget and keep an eye on national ones
  • A single European banking regulator and a common scheme guaranteeing bank deposits
  • Common policies on employment regulations and levels of taxation
  • Joint decision-making with national parliaments to give it "democratic legitimacy".
http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-18592135

http://www.consilium...n/ec/131201.pdf

#91 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 23:36

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Romania: IMF remedy starts to pay off

While eurozone policy makers thrash out the growth vs austerity debate, the evidence from Romania seems to be that the traditional medicine works.
Under the aegis of the IMF, Romania has adopted austerity measures including job losses and a 25 per cent in wages in the public sector, as well as an increase in VAT. These have proved deeply unpopular, and helped fuel street protests earlier this year that eventually led to the fall of the government in April. It was replaced by a socialist-liberal coalition led by new Prime Minister Victor Ponta.

http://blogs.ft.com/.../#axzz1yuayckKu

#92 bainit

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 23:39

ce se znizajo place v javnem sektorju, a gredo potem tut v gospodarstvu dol (in cene tam, kjer lahko)?

#93 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 26 junij 2012 - 23:51

Gospodarstvo se znižajo ko firma ne zasluži, ni odvisno od javnih financ.

S cenami, jah, tako naj bi delovala interna devalvacija.

#94 Adam Velkavrh

    Se bori za pravice zelenih ženskov.

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Objavljeno 27 junij 2012 - 15:11

Oglej si sporočilobainit, ob 26 junij 2012 - 23:39, rekši:

ce se znizajo place v javnem sektorju, a gredo potem tut v gospodarstvu dol (in cene tam, kjer lahko)?

v evropi ja do neke mere, sicer indirektno, ker se nizajo place v javnem sektorju se nizajo tudi investicije, kar pomeni many prodaje za gospodarstvo, kar pomeni nizje place za gospodarstvo.

#95 disturber

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Objavljeno 28 junij 2012 - 01:21

Oglej si sporočiloAdam Velkavrh, ob 27 junij 2012 - 15:11, rekši:

v evropi ja do neke mere, sicer indirektno, ker se nizajo place v javnem sektorju se nizajo tudi investicije, kar pomeni many prodaje za gospodarstvo, kar pomeni nizje place za gospodarstvo.

to boljševistična ekonomija na srečo ne drži, plače v javnem sektorju bi vplivale na gospodarstvo edino če jih par mesecev ne bi bilo, par % znižanja pa ne vplivajo nič.

#96 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 29 junij 2012 - 11:22

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The key to getting your way in tough negotiations, of course, is to find your opponents Achilles' heel. Italian Prime Minister Mario Monti and Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy did that on Thursday night and early Friday morning in Brussels. And the result is a euro-zone agreement to allow the common currency bailout funds to give direct help to ailing banks and to become active on sovereign bond markets to provide relief on the financial markets -- free of conditions for the countries in need of such aid.


"We are opening the possibilities for countries that are well-behaving to make use of financial stability instruments, the EFSF and ESM, in order to reassure markets and get again some stability around some of the sovereign bonds of our member states," said European Council President Herman Van Rompuy at a 4:30 a.m. press conference, referring to the temporary bailout fund European Financial Stability Facility and the permanent fund European Stability Mechanism.

http://www.spiegel.d...l-a-841632.html

#97 kROKar

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Objavljeno 29 junij 2012 - 16:35

What EU leaders delivered, what is missing

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Four Key Announcements:

1. EUR120 billion Growth Pact – While the growth pact was preannounced on Thursday, it was the bargaining chip used by the Spanish and Italian Prime Minister to get Merkel to cave on debt issues. The money will come from existing EU funds and will be used for short term growth boosting measures such as building highways, railways and air links in the same spirit as the Franklin D Roosevelt’s economic programs to promote growth during the Great Depression.


2. Quasi Banking Union and Direct Rescue of Banks – A banking union is one of the core solutions to Europe’s debt crisis that the market did not expect so quickly from Europeans Leaders. However the Italians got the Germans to relent on allowing the European Stability Mechanism (ESM = Europe’s rescue fund) to give money to banks directly without adding to the debt burden of individual governments. What is wonderful about this is that it helps to cap the rise in European bond yields and hopefully prevent further downgrades by providing a bailout for banks without adding to the total debt sovereign owed by countries like Spain and Ireland. U Leaders aim to start allowing direct rescues of banks as quickly as year end instead of 3 years from now, when the crisis will probably be behind us. This is the short term rescue that the market desperately wanted and the main catalyst for the EUR/USD rally. The ECB will also become the sole supervisor of banks and any loans will be attached with strict rules.


3. Give Spanish Bondholders Seniority Over the EU – EU Leaders promised to not subordinate Spanish bondholders, giving creditors the confidence that they will not lose their place in the debt restructuring line to the ESM. As the second groundbreaking announcement from European Leaders this morning, loans from the rescue fund will now be on equal footing with loans from private investors, giving them the reassurance they need to buy Spanish bonds again.


4. Allow EFSF/ESM To Buy Bonds Directly – Allowing the EFSF/ESM to buy bonds in the secondary market is also a big deal because it is an aggressive and quick way to prevent the crisis from worsening by allowing the EFSF/ESM to control bond yield.


What was missing however are guaranteed deposit insurance and a roadmap for a fiscal union, which EU Leaders have tasked EC President Van Rompuy with delivering by the October summit.



#98 bainit

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Objavljeno 29 junij 2012 - 19:24

Oglej si sporočilodisturber, ob 26 junij 2012 - 06:20, rekši:

sploh ne

ciper je zaprosil eu za 2 miljardi
bo zdaj le-ta koncno nehal bit davcna oaza?

#99 kROKar

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Objavljeno 29 junij 2012 - 22:54

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#100 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 29 junij 2012 - 23:25

oziroma 0 korelacije

boljši graf, ki ejv saj zgledal obetavno je:
bond yield vs koliko obveznic držijo tujci

#101 kROKar

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 01:07

Oglej si sporočiloShenkey, ob 29 junij 2012 - 23:25, rekši:

oziroma 0 korelacije
Sej to je cel point tega grafa. Prikazoval naj bi, da euro ni v dolžniški krizi ampak v krizi eura. link

#102 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 01:08

sej ti pravim, najdi graf obresti vs % obresti ki ga držijo tujci

nimam pri roki, sem pa že videl enrkat in je kokr tolk povezava

#103 kROKar

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 01:11

Zakaj bi se šel skrivalnice ob tej uri? :) nalimaj če maš

#104 Mr_K

    eden od desetih najboljših fafačev

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 08:16

Nimajo kaj bailoutati Ciper dokler slednji ne neha furat davčno oazo. :closedeyes:
Bailout Cipra bi bil absurd v trenutni situaciji.

#105 maksi

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 09:15

saj Irski so dali denar, pa še vedno je davčna oaza za korporacije

#106 tyne

    vseskozi piratizira! APZ, na pomoč!!!

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 10:26

Oglej si sporočilokROKar, ob 30 junij 2012 - 01:07, rekši:

Sej to je cel point tega grafa. Prikazoval naj bi, da euro ni v dolžniški krizi ampak v krizi eura. link
Napačna interpretacija. Evroobmočje v dolžniški krizi, ki pa ni posledica visokih socialnih izdatkov, kot bi nas brez dvoma rad prepričal kakšen Fox news.
Dolžniška kriza je posledica napol narejene monetarne unije oz. neprimernosti monetarne unije za Evropo nasploh. O tem sem že večkrat pisal, ravno danes pa JPD o tem razlaga v Financah: http://www.finance.s...-sebi%C4%8Dnost

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Evro spočet s prirojeno napako


Toda, tretjič, do krize v državah PIIGS bi prišlo v vsakem primeru, tudi brez impulza iz ZDA. Glavni »krivec« zanjo je namreč dejstvo, da je bila skupna valuta evro od vsega začetka spočeta s prirojeno napako. Iz teorije optimalnega denarnega področja Roberta Mundella je že dobrih 50 let jasno, da morajo države, ki si delijo skupno valuto, imeti bodisi povsem prožen trg dela bodisi mora biti delovna sila med njimi povsem mobilna. Ob začetku gospodarske krize v eni izmed držav (asimetričnega šoka) bi ob lastni valuti lahko ta država svojo valuto preprosto devalvirala in vnovič vzpostavila izvozno konkurenčnost. Ob skupni valuti posamezna država te možnosti nima in se lahko prilagodi le bodisi z znižanjem plač in posledičnim dvigom konkurenčnosti bodisi tako, da se brezposelni preselijo v drugo državo, ki je šok ni prizadel. Na evrskem območju nobeden izmed obeh pogojev ni izpolnjen.


K zmanjšanju možnosti za nastop asimetričnih šokov v posamičnih državah sicer lahko pripomore to, če imajo države močno razpršene in podobne gospodarske strukture ter če med seboj močno trgujejo, saj so deležne podobnih poslovnih ciklov. Države EU sicer med seboj močno trgujejo, toda še vedno imajo zelo različne gospodarske strukture in še vedno so zaradi tega deležne asimetričnih šokov. Vprašanje asimetričnih šokov bi bilo precej laže rešljivo, če bi bil izpolnjen glavni pogoj za denarno območje - fiskalna unija med članicami. Če bi denimo Španija zašla v težave, bi se tako stroški nadomestil za brezposelnost pa tudi denimo stroški reševanja bank pokrivali iz skupnega evropskega proračuna. Hkrati bi Španija - po vzoru ameriških zveznih držav - lahko financirala svoj proračunski primanjkljaj po enotni obrestni meri za celotno evrsko območje. Če bi dodatno k temu v EU obstajal še skupen čut za solidarnost med članicami, bi bile težave z asimetričnimi šoki precej laže rešljive.


Skupna valuta in veliko trgovinsko neravnotežje


Toda prav tega ob odsotnosti fiskalne unije zdaj najbolj primanjkuje. In to kljub dejstvu, da so, četrtič, z enotno valuto najbolj pridobile prav trgovinsko najmočnejše države - z Nemčijo na prvem mestu. Namreč, poceni zadolževanje podjetij in gospodinjstev z viri v tujini se je prelilo v povečano domače in uvozno povpraševanje. Zadnje pa se je večinoma prelilo v uvoz nemških izdelkov. Slika 2 kaže, da je povečan nemški trgovinski presežek v notranji trgovini EU pred začetkom krize pravzaprav zrcalna slika povečanega trgovinskega primanjkljaja držav PIGS (brez Irske). Drugi dejavnik, ki je pripomogel k povečanju trgovinskih neravnotežij na evrskem območju, pa je vpliv povečanega povpraševanja na rast plač, zaradi česar so se stroški dela v državah PIGS (razen Irske) med letoma 2000 in 2007 povišali za 10 do 20 odstotkov. S tem se je zmanjšala njihova izvozna konkurenčnost in še povečal njihov trgovinski primanjkljaj.


Z drugimi besedami, eden izmed glavnih učinkov skupne valute je, da se je postopoma ustvarilo veliko trgovinsko neravnotežje med članicami evrskega območja, ki se je financiralo prek zasebnega zadolževanja.




#107 kROKar

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Objavljeno 30 junij 2012 - 11:24

Oglej si sporočilotyne, ob 30 junij 2012 - 10:26, rekši:

Dolžniška kriza je posledica napol narejene monetarne unije oz. neprimernosti monetarne unije za Evropo nasploh.
Saj to sem napisal? Uporabil sem samo besedno igro iz članka. Ravno zato sem ga nalimal, da ne bo kdo pameten :)

Še nekaj glede EU vrha mi pade na pamet - Kapitalizem 4.0:

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Its first form, Capitalism 1.0, was the classical laissez-faire capitalism that lasted from 1776 until 1930. Next was Capitalism 2.0, New Deal Keynesian social capitalism created in the 1930s and extinguished in the 1970s. Its last mutation, Reagan-Thatcher market fundamentalism, culminated in the financially-dominated globalization of the past decade and triggered the recession of 2009-10. The self-destruction of Capitalism 3.0 leaves the field open for the next phase of capitalism’s evolution. Capitalism is likely to transform in the coming decades into something different both from the totally deregulated market fundamentalism of Reagan/Thatcher and from the Roosevelt-Kennedy era. This is Capitalism 4.0.
Torej glede na pretekle izkušnje teh ciklov bo stagnacija še nekaj časa in končna rešitev šele proti koncu desetletja? Fun times, big opportunities.

#108 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 03 julij 2012 - 23:23

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But it was on the public finances, and how to fill the gaping hole in the budget, that his speech was most eagerly awaited. The day before, on July 2nd, the Cour des Comptes, the public audit office, published a 255-page report warning the government that it faced a new financing gap of between €6 billion and €10 billion in the 2012 budget, and a massive €33 billion gap next year.
Didier Migaud, the chief auditor and a former Socialist deputy, stated bluntly that France was entering a “danger zone”, and that a “debt spiral” could not be ruled out. The credibility of the country, which has failed to balance a budget for nearly 40 years, he said, was on the line.
France could afford no slippage in keeping to its commitment to reduce the deficit to 3% in 2013, which Mr Migaud described as a “crucial year” in which there would be “difficult choices” requiring “severe discipline”. Most of the effort, he added, had to come from spending cuts. And the agency’s calculations, he stressed, did not take into account the extra spending that President François Hollande has promised.
In a supplementary 2012 budget, which Mr Ayrault will present to parliament tomorrow, he will increase the annual wealth tax (which is imposed in addition to income tax), remove the tax shield that caps individuals’ taxation, abolish tax-free overtime, and increase taxes on companies, especially banks and oil firms. To help the middle-class, he will reverse the VAT rise planned by the outgoing government of François Fillon, the previous prime minister. He will also reduce VAT on books and theatre tickets.
The Socialists had been hoping that the auditor would expose sloppy management by the previous government. Instead, it said the financing gap was mostly due to disappointing growth. Rather than offering Mr Hollande political cover for tough spending decisions, Mr Migaud laid the choice out starkly to his former political colleague: France has to make an “unprecedented effort” to control public spending; without such an effort today, the measures needed will be “heavier and more painful still tomorrow”.
http://www.economist...french-politics

hollande bo držal obljube


Medtem ko mi jebemo ježa se Bulgarija zadolžuje po 4.48%

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Orders placed for the new Bulgarian global bonds exceed five times the issue

The orders, placed for the new Bulgarian global bonds, with which the Government intends to pay in January the maturing loan, agreed by former finance minister Milen Velchev, exceed five times the issue, Klassa daily learnt from financiers. This practically means that the securities were marketed on the very first day when trade in these started.

“We can say with a great deal of certainty that today (Monday, July 2 – editor’s note) the transaction on the Bulgarian Eurobonds was completed since the offers for the purchase of our securities exceed five times the issue,” financier Andrei Pramov told Klassa.

Bulgaria offered bonds worth €950 mln. By the time Klassa daily went to print, the orders placed stood at almost €5 bn.

According to inconclusive data, the annual interest rate on our securities will be around 4.5%, or about 1.5% lower than the unofficial forecasts of experts for 6%.

“I am rather optimistic about the Bulgarian issue. According to our interim information, the interest rate will be lower than expected. For me, this is a positive sign, proving that when a country observes budget discipline, the market rewards it,” said economist Georgi Angelov.
http://www.klassa.bg...times+the+issue



#109 Shenkey

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Objavljeno 04 julij 2012 - 13:04

ACTA padla v EU parlamanetu

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1 Magdi Cristiano ALLAM EFD Italy
2 Jean-Pierre AUDY EPP France
3 Bendt BENDTSEN EPP Denmark
4 Nora BERRA EPP France
5 Alain CADEC EPP France
6 Carlo CASINI EPP Italy
7 Michel DANTIN EPP France
8 Rachida DATI EPP France
9 Albert DESS EPP Germany
10 Karl-Heinz FLORENZ EPP Germany
11 Michael GAHLER EPP Germany
12 Marielle GALLO EPP France
13 Jean-Paul GAUZÈS EPP France
14 Françoise GROSSETÊTE EPP France
15 Brice HORTEFEUX EPP France
16 Philippe JUVIN EPP France
17 Alain LAMASSOURE EPP France
18 Werner LANGEN EPP Germany
19 Agnès LE BRUN EPP France
20 Constance LE GRIP EPP France
21 Klaus-Heiner LEHNE EPP Germany
22 Véronique MATHIEU EPP France
23 Vital MOREIRA S&D Portugal
24 Elisabeth MORIN-CHARTIER EPP France
25 Tiziano MOTTI EPP Italy
26 Bill NEWTON DUNN ALDE/ADLE United Kingdom
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28 Bernd POSSELT EPP Germany
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30 Fiorello PROVERA EFD Italy
31 Godelieve QUISTHOUDT-ROWOHL EPP Germany
32 Dominique RIQUET EPP France
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34 Jean ROATTA EPP France
35 Marie-Thérèse SANCHEZ-SCHMID EPP France
36 Hannu TAKKULA ALDE/ADLE Finland
37 Niki TZAVELA EFD Greece
38 Dominique VLASTO EPP France
39 Manfred WEBER EPP Germany



http://www.ehrenhaus...TA-RollCall.pdf

#110 Adam Velkavrh

    Se bori za pravice zelenih ženskov.

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Objavljeno 04 julij 2012 - 20:16

Ciprski predsednik danes v EU parlamentu: "rusi ponujajo kredit po nizji obrestni meri in brez politicnih pogojev."

zdej je vprasanje kolk je to res, kolk pa izvaja pritisk na EU model, ker bi bila dost blamaza za EU, da eno njeno clanico resuje, nedemokraticna, neuspesna rusija pod boljsimi pogoji kot bogata, pametna, eu

Rusom se itak splaca, tud ce utrpijo par sto miljonov izgube tukaj, bo vpliv nad ciprom dosti vec vreden, morda kaksna vojaska baza ali pristanisce...

#111 kROKar

    tekmuje v snemanju. Kožce z glavce, se razume.

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Objavljeno 04 julij 2012 - 20:30

Rusi so že lani posodili Cipru 2.5 miljarde na lepe oke. Letos so jim samo dali pogoje in sedaj si odpirajo fronte za pogajanja.
Blamaža se je že zdavnaj zgodila.

#112 Adam Velkavrh

    Se bori za pravice zelenih ženskov.

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Objavljeno 04 julij 2012 - 21:32

ma ja sam tist je bil bolj prehodni kredit, kot pa pravi bailout, saj je blo kolk 4-5 krat manj od tega kar iscejo zdaj

#113 Shenkey

    tekmuje v snemanju. Kožce z glavce, se razume.

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Objavljeno 05 julij 2012 - 09:19

Še zeleni bojo počas, mrbit do konca našega življenja dojel kako deluje elektrika.


Solar subsidies cost German consumers billions of dollars a year and are widely regarded as inefficient. Even environmentalists are concerned that Berlin's focus on solar comes at the detriment of other renewables. But the solar industry has a powerful lobby, and politicians have proven powerless to resist.

#114 tufy

    je fasal hemeroide. Zdaj mu plapolajo v vetru.

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Objavljeno 05 julij 2012 - 10:24

Čakaj. Ne bi jedrskih, ker so baje nevarne (čeprav povprečno povzročijo manj žrtev kot termoelektrarne). Ne bi sončnih, ker so neučinkovite. Ne bi vetrnih, ker ovirajo ptiče. Kako pa bomo potem pridobivali elektriko, na hrčke?!?

#115 MIHA_IS_GOD

    božanski padawan

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Objavljeno 05 julij 2012 - 11:23

Ne kapiraš.

Gotovo obstaja brezplačna, čista, obnovljiva energija v neomejenih količinah, vendar naftni in drugi lobiji preprečujejo da bi prešla v uporabo. Pa tisti v cernu lahko uporabijo svoje bizone al kaj je že tisto. Menda ja ni Božji delec poimenovan za brezveze.

/tin foil hat off

#116 ana

    se rima na banana.

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Objavljeno 05 julij 2012 - 15:31

ECB znizala obrestno mero na 0.75. Pricakuje se eno znizanje za 0.25 v naslednjih parih mesecih. Iz povsem sebicnih razlogov me to zelo veseli. :D

#117 kROKar

    tekmuje v snemanju. Kožce z glavce, se razume.

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Objavljeno 05 julij 2012 - 18:02

Mogoče celo bolj važno:

Navedek

The ECB cut the interest rate on its deposit facility to 0.0 per cent, effectively encouraging banks to lend their funds in the market to other banks overnight, where they receive a higher interest rate, currently about 0.3 per cent.


#118 ZiP

    garjavi nestvor z luskavico

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Objavljeno 06 julij 2012 - 10:19

Kaj bi blo narobe, če bi banke zmeraj posojale dnar z zelo nizkimi obrestnimi merami? Razen manjšega profita za njih, morda kakšna negativna posledica za gospodarstvo?

#119 Shenkey

    tekmuje v snemanju. Kožce z glavce, se razume.

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Objavljeno 06 julij 2012 - 11:55

Preveč keša je v obtoku in se fila v druge predele gospodarstva, kjer lahko narediš večji profit -> nepremičninski balon, lahko pa tudi karkol drugega.

#120 kROKar

    tekmuje v snemanju. Kožce z glavce, se razume.

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Objavljeno 08 julij 2012 - 14:09

Gerhard Schröder: The last Social Democrat chancellor talks about how he cut taxes and reformed labor markets—and how it cost him his job.





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