COVID-19

[Berbasecks]

daljinec reče pred 52 minutami:

pol pa naj nehajo hitro testirat...butli govorijo o tretjem valu, hkrati testirajo nenormalno z lažnimi testi, število v bolnicah se zmanjšuje, bolni sploh niso bolni

 

hitri testi ne štejejo več v število okuženih

jih morjo potrdit s PCR

[kefir]

vem, ampak, če ne bi bilo 50000 hitrih testov na dan tudi 6000 pcr testov ne bi blo

[hordak]

Kako prikladno smo pri tem fiasku s hitrimi testi pozabili, da tudi pozitiven  PCR ne pomeni, da je človek bolan ali kužen, ampak ti lahko napraskajo iz nosa par tednov stare ostanke virusa, ki te niti okužiti ni uspel 

[bleachedagnus]

daljinec reče pred 1 uro:

pol pa naj nehajo hitro testirat...butli govorijo o tretjem valu, hkrati testirajo nenormalno z lažnimi testi, število v bolnicah se zmanjšuje, bolni sploh niso bolni

mene zanima koliko od teh covid hospitalizacij je dejansko zaradi covida

 

ker če si ti v bolnici iz kakaršnega koli razloga in si slučajno pozitiven, se te šteje zraven

 

pa kake so starosti hospitaliziranih

 

pa koliko od umrlih zaradi/z covida se je okužilo v bolnici

[Aktivist Vanč]

Tega ne boš nikoli izvedel.

[hordak]

Važno da so cifre čim večje amirite?

[kefir]

bleachedagnus reče pred 1 uro:

mene zanima koliko od teh covid hospitalizacij je dejansko zaradi covida

 

ker če si ti v bolnici iz kakaršnega koli razloga in si slučajno pozitiven, se te šteje zraven

 

pa kake so starosti hospitaliziranih

 

pa koliko od umrlih zaradi/z covida se je okužilo v bolnici

koliko teh bolnikov je na telemetriji in leži doma...me zanima kam se šteje telemetrija...

[debelinko]

bleachedagnus reče pred 52 minutami:

mene zanima koliko od teh covid hospitalizacij je dejansko zaradi covida

 

ker če si ti v bolnici iz kakaršnega koli razloga in si slučajno pozitiven, se te šteje zraven

 

pa kake so starosti hospitaliziranih

 

pa koliko od umrlih zaradi/z covida se je okužilo v bolnici

daljinec reče pred 4 minutami:

koliko teh bolnikov je na telemetriji in leži doma...me zanima kam se šteje telemetrija...

 

Na Covid oddelku, kjer delam jaz, je bila povprečna starost hospitaliziranega dober mesec nazaj slabih 73 let, povprečna starost umrlega 82, umrlo je nekaj nad 20% hospitaliziranih. V celotni Sloveniji brez UKC LJ, ki predstavlja 1/3 posteljnih kapacitet v državi, je bilo v drugem valu od 18 do preko 100 bolnikov na teden, ki so se okužili v bolnišnici, kjer so bili hospitalizirani zaradi drugih vzrokov in niso imeli Covida ob sprejemu. Koliko od teh je umrlo, se ne ve, po občutku jih je bilo kar nekaj. Viden je izrazit padec okuženih med hospitalizacijo zaradi drugih vzrokov po 25.1. Najbrž zaradi kombinacije prekuženosti in precepljenosti osebja ter rutinske uporabe HAGT pred in med hospitalizacijo pri vseh asimptomatskih pacientih.

 

Kar se tiče koliko od teh hospitalizacij je zaradi Covida, koliko z Covidom, spet na oko vsaj 2/3. Večina tistih, ki imajo Covid za zraven, se je okužila med hospitalizacijo in ob premestitvi na Covid oddelek nimajo simptomov, jih pa kar nekaj nato tudi razvije simptome. 

 

Kar se tiče Covid smrti, bi rekel, da jih je na oko več kot 2/3 zaradi Covida. Vsakodnevni podatki, ki jih posreduje vlada/sledilnik, štejejo vse, ki so umrli z ali zaradi Covida. Natančnejše številke bodo na voljo kasneje. Zdravniška poročiloa o umrli osebi se namreč na NIJZ ne dostavljajo vsakodnevno in je treba ta poročila tudi naknadno obdelati, tako da so natančne statistike na voljo kasneje. Zdravniki napišemo na obrazec dejanski vzrok smrti, če je človek umrl npr. zaradi možganske krvavitve, zraven pa je imel Covid, potem napišemo vzrok smrti možganska krvavitev, Covid pa je zaveden pod dodatna stanja. 

 

Bolniki na telemetriji se ne štejejo pod hospitalizirane. Od marca 2020 do januarja 2021 je bilo v telemetrijo UKC LJ, ki je, kolikor mi je znano, edini telemetrijski center v Sloveniji, vključenih cca 500 pacientov s Covidom, kar ni zelo velika številka.

[shure]

En post na mn3njalu bolj jasen in informativen kot 99% vsega kar sproducirajo vladni govorci.

[bleachedagnus]

debelinko reče pred 16 urami:

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shure reče pred 1 uro:

En post na mn3njalu bolj jasen in informativen kot 99% vsega kar sproducirajo vladni govorci.

Uporabnik debelinko bi moral biti na tiskovni konferenci

[hordak]

Koliko Bergamov napovedujete v Texasu?

 

 

[andrejus]

V Avstriji zapleti s cepivom AstraZeneca.

Ena umrla druga v hudem stanju.

Ustavili cepljenje.

 

https://www.rtvslo.si/zdravje/novi-koronavirus/afera-z-maskami-odnesla-nemska-poslanca-v-avstriji-prekinili-cepljenje-s-serijo-astrazenece/572023

 

 

 

[bleachedagnus]

hordak reče pred 57 minutami:

Koliko Bergamov napovedujete v Texasu?

 

 

Teksaški sev

[berghaus]

A ni Texas še kak teden nazaj crkaval v snegu in mrazu?

[bleachedagnus]

berghaus reče pred 1 uro:

A ni Texas še kak teden nazaj crkaval v snegu in mrazu?

Texas je velik za dve Nemčiji. Niso vsi crknili. 

[berghaus]

80% Texasa naj bi zmrzovalo, večina njih celo brez elektrike. Tukaj mi bolj izgleda tropsko 

[Ivan JJ]

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25. februar 2022 uredilo bitje BotoxPutler

[bleachedagnus]

Avstrija zapira celo mesto 

 

https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/plus227849555/Abriegelungen-Der-Preis-den-Oesterreich-fuer-die-Oeffnung-zahlt.html

 

Navedek

Austria's opening strategy requires areas with a high incidence to be cordoned off - with the help of the army if necessary. Now, for the first time, this affects a whole city. The 50,000 residents are only allowed to leave if they have negative rapid tests. There is one problem, however. 279

 

TEsten and open is Sebastian Kurz's strategy in the fight against the pandemic. Testing, opening, but above all one thing: closing selectively when the numbers rise dramatically. In the city of Wiener Neustadt, they have been rising for weeks. It is located about 50 kilometers south of Vienna, and with it an urban conurbation with 50,000 inhabitants will be cordoned off for the first time from Wednesday.

 

If the federal government has its way, citizens will then only be allowed to leave their city with a negative corona test. This should be controlled by the police and probably also by the army.

 

Such an alliance last existed on the inner Austrian border with Tyrol . Soldiers of the Federal Army were stationed there to control departure from the state. Forces of the armed forces are also involved in the control of the external borders.

 

After lockdowns in Austria had barely worked recently, they switched to selective openings - an approach that many Germans consider to be a role model. This goes hand in hand with extensive tests in schools , and visits to so-called body-hugging service providers such as hairdressers also require a negative test.

 

To this end, a dense network of test facilities has been created across the country. In order to be able to continue making this possible, however, areas with high numbers of infections are to be closed.

 

For example, the exit from the Pongau district in the state of Salzburg has been controlled since Friday, and the Hermagor district in Carinthia will be sealed off from Tuesday, also with the participation of the army. So far, however, there is no experience with such measures in a city.

 

Many commute to Vienna to work To make matters worse: Wiener Neustadt is a regional center and destination for many commuters, at the same time a large proportion of the residents commute from there to Vienna every day. The Wiener Neustadt train station recorded 30,000 travelers every day.

 

The reason for the crackdown is the incidence of Wiener Neustadt, currently the second highest in Austria at 530. It is higher at 573 only in Hermagor, and Pongau (486.5) is also classified as a high incidence area.

 

For areas with such high numbers, according to the will of the Ministry of Health in Vienna, an automatism should apply in the future: If the incidence rises above 400, it will be cordoned off. A negative corona test should then automatically be required to leave these regions . The obligation to test must be maintained until the incidence has fallen below 200 for a period of ten days.

 

In the case of long-term high incidence in a district or region - with over 400 for longer than a week - Health Minister Rudolf Anschober (Greens) also demands further measures "by the governor", i.e. the prime minister. This refers to further quarantine regulations and, above all, more intensive controls to determine whether the corona rules are being adhered to. All of this has been in effect since last Friday and should be implemented by Wednesday.

 

There is little enthusiasm for this approach in Wiener Neustadt. "The proportionality is not seen by anyone," said Mayor Klaus Schneeberger in an interview with the radio station Ö1. He considers the 400 incidence mark to be “excessive”. "But I'm doing it because it's my job."

 

There is "no general criticism of Corona measures," a spokesman for the mayor told WELT, while Schneeberger is negotiating the terms of the lockdown with the state. Many questions are still open.

 

But, according to the spokesman, you don't oppose it, you don't understand the lockdown as a punitive measure either. The only question that arises is whether a metropolitan area can be treated like an area.

 

Mayor Schneeberger has especially criticized the tight schedule. Because in addition to personnel capacities to control the departure, one thing above all is required: sufficient test capacities . According to the ÖVP politician, the city can currently carry out around 2000 tests a day.

 

During the lockdown, however, a daily need of 15,000 tests is expected. The armed forces are to be used more and more here. It is already supporting the local authorities with the tests.

 

Schneeberger rules out that this almost eightfold increase in test capacities will be achieved by Wednesday: “I need a hundred militiamen. I need around 60 testers, and I need the premises. ”But it will probably be done by Friday.

 

He considers the health minister's decree to be "questionable". It is irresponsible to demand control from people who do not have the opportunity to be tested. It remains unclear whether the controls can begin in full from Wednesday.

 

From the side of the armed forces one sees it more calmly. "We assume that it will start on Wednesday or Thursday," a spokesman for the Lower Austria military command told WELT. In any case, one assumes a “larger number” of soldiers who will be dispatched - primarily for the test roads.

 

Res ne razumem ljudi, ki to podpirajo 

[bainit]

janšisti

[Marvak]

Kaj se pa main stream medijem zadnje par dni strgalo iz ketne? Dobesedno povsod 3 top članki so o cepljenju in koronavirusu. 

 

Še ko so starčki cepali ko muhe decembra ni bilo tok hardcore propagande kot je sedaj. 

[Marvak]

Človeka še zamika da bi začel nova24 brat zjutraj za novice

 

Gladko prva naslovnica danes zjutraj

 

 

Afera Vitol: Do milijonskega posla na Petrolu s pomočjo nepotizma?

9. marec 2021 uredilo bitje Marvak

[Marvak]

Odpreš novice povsod sam igle, igle, slike igel

 

Kot da smo kot družba ratali uni najhujši hašišarji

 

Sam da se pikamo, magar z novicami o pikanju

[iguana]

Đanksi, ne hašišarji, lepo prosim. 

[Marvak]

Ja maš prov. Đunkiji, k se v kletnih straniščih pod lučmi pikajo z iglami.

 

Kot družba rabimo konkreten detox. Ljudje pa komi čakajo da dobijo ta svoj fiks igle v žilo. Pa ne vejo da je vse preparelo, gnilo bo prec nasleden problem.

 

Res sinonimno z najhujšim odvisnikom, k je vse v kurcu, pa kr vid odrešitev v parih iglah

[Marvak]

Sam kaj k edini detox k ga imamo kot družba na voljo da se z sabljami koljemo po ulicah kot živali

 

Pa so se še naši dedki zaobljubili da nikoli več

 

Sam kaj nej človek nardi, ljudje sam še sanjajo kako se bodo pikali z iglami

[hordak]

Vidim da Beovička pravi, da šole po novem nimajo več vpliva na epidemijo, še dobro da smo jih imeli štiri mesece zaprte. Januarja je še trdila, da imajo šole pri nas večji vpliv na okužbe, kot v tujini. 

In potem jih jemlji resno.

[morIski]

it's the wind

[morIski]

9. marec 2021 uredilo bitje opflipo

[morIski]

[╭∩╮ Hernier]

Samo 15 % pozz testov, nice, zdaj pa krepko padamo.