Primera Division

[Karim]

ronaldinho reče pred 1 uro:

 

Eh, agenti pač opravljajo svoj job in ponujajo igralce naokrog, Deco bi bil pa tudi neumen, če ne bi vsaj preveril, kakšna je situacija pri takšnih igralcih, ki so morebiti lahko na voljo, čeprav si jih ne moremo privoščit in imamo trenutno druge prioritete.

 

ne sej to je bila čist tko šala, ker itq veliko ljudi potuje v Barco just for fun. pa pridejo potem takšne zadeve v rumeni tisk.

[reder]

Danes Ramos vrača Barco v igro za naslov. 

[Karim]

reder reče pred 21 minutami:

Danes Ramos vrača Barco v igro za naslov. 

sploh nevem zakaj ste se sami sebe že odpisali iz igre za prvaka, 5 točk ni veliko in še medsebojna tekma. veliko bo pa tudi odvisno od CL. 

[ronaldinho]

As reported this morning by 'Jijantes', one of the alternatives that Barça are contemplating is Hummel. The Danish sports brand of German origin would be the company with which the Barça club would have agreed to produce its own brand.

 

If negotiations with Nike fail, and pending an agreement with Puma for the 2025-2026 season, Hummel would be Barça's plan B for the next kit. This stamp has already been used by LaLiga clubs such as Betis and Las Palmas; as well as other Spanish clubs in lower categories: Sabadell or Málaga, among others. Also in the Premier League to Everton or Southampton; as well as many Danish teams, including their national team.

[ronaldinho]

Dober začetek leta 2024 za Deportivo, ki je z nizom 6 zaporednih zmag prišel do 2. mesta v svoji skupini Primere RFEF. Blesti Lucas Perez z 8 goli in 13 asistencami, trener je pa Imanol Idiakez, med drugim bivši asistent Emeryja v Villarrealu.

 

Res upam, da se vrnejo v Segundo in potem kmalu tudi v La Ligo. 

 

 

Dépor vivo: seis victorias consecutivas para volver a soñar con el ascenso | Marca

 

Dépor vivo: six consecutive victories to dream of promotion again

The current impressive streak and the constant support of the fans relaunch the historic team from A Coruña, which captained by Lucas Pérez is excited about the possible return to professional football

 

Will this be the year? This is the recurring question of the people of A Coruña in recent summers when they get in line to renew the Riazor season ticket. Each partner has his or her own theory. It should not be forgotten that in the three previous seasons the outcome was different and in some cases cruel, always with the conclusion of staying one more season in the Primera RFEF. That is, in the third category of Spanish football.

 

This season began with Lucas Pérez captaining the team. The striker from A Coruña decided to return to his soul team in the winter market last season, paying part of the transfer fee with his money after having a hard time leaving Cadiz. At first he could not achieve the promotion he dreamed of, but this season he leads a solid team and Imanol Idiakez has turned after several unsuccessful tests into a bad first lap, during which he came to see many points, too many, of the first place.

 

The emergence and growth of two youngsters from the academy have been the key for the Deportivista team to take off. Mella and Yeremay, Yeremay and Mella, are Riazor's hope. "The little ones are very good, it's very easy to get along with them... They're going to give us a lot of joy," said Lucas Pérez, who has eight goals and no less than 13 assists so far this season.

 

Going back in time, during the first season after the relegation to Segunda B, with that conflictive outcome against Fuenlabrada, Fernando Vázquez was in charge of the team. It was an atypical championship: it was gradually emerging from the pandemic and the Federation proposed two groups. The Dépor fans had connected with Fernando, a coach of the house who always revitalized the team when he was coach, but the club ended up fulminating him after being defeated in Zamora. He was replaced by Rubén de la Barrera and the end of the season was convulsive, even on the verge of a relegation that was finally avoided.

 

Months later, Dépor began its second consecutive year in the national third division. He chose to pilot the ship a technician who had already achieved two promotions: Borja Jiménez landed in A Coruña after having been promoted to Cartagena and Mirandés. The coach put together a squad in his likeness, even calling himself and convincing players of the category he knew. After a spectacular first half of the season, with an eight-point difference over second-placed Racing de Santander, a disastrous second half of the championship was signed, with a key defeat in Riazor against the Cantabrian team.

 

The Herculean stadium always has room for great feats, but also for great disappointments. The frustrated promotion against Rayo Vallecano in the 80s, Djukic's penalty against Valencia that would have been worth a league title... and perhaps the defeat against Albacete in the playoff for the return to the Second Division can be included. After getting into the final with a thrashing of Linares, fate wanted Rubén de la Barrera's team, precisely from him, to beat Borja Jiménez's team in a cursed extra time for a fiefdom that of course had been full and in which more or less ended up desolate.

 

But failures motivate an exemplary fan base a lot. Without a doubt, it is one of the most faithful in Spain. In this third category it has no less than 28,000 subscribers and it is very difficult not to see an average of 500 or 1,000 people following the team on each trip. The third season began again with Borja Jiménez questioned by the fans for the last failure of the previous season. Indeed, he only lasted seven games in his second season at the club. A draw in Majadahonda put an end to his Deportivo era and the new tenant of the bench was Óscar Cano.

 

The Andalusian built a solid team, especially in Riazor, but his big unfinished business was the away performance. Not even a goal-scoring Alberto Quiles could help the team achieve promotion. "The year was weird. Away from home we struggled a lot when we were far superior in Riazor. We couldn't win away from home in the second half of the season and in the play-offs we were penalised for not finishing higher," says Quiles himself when he looks back.

 

The coach wasn't helped by the press conferences either. With the fans against him, Cano was dismissed to give him the bench for the second time... Rubén de la Barrera. With him, they reached the playoffs again. On this occasion they were eliminated in the first round against Castellón, after an epic match in Castalia (4-3), of disastrous memory for Ian Mackay, who in addition to missing a goal ended up being sent off, leaving the Blue and White team with one less player in extra time.

 

There is no doubt that Deportivo's journey in this Primera RFEF has been very irregular. No less than five coaches, taking stock, have passed through the Galician bench. Fernando Vázquez, Rubén de la Barrera (two spells), Borja Jiménez, Oscar Cano and Imanol Idiakez have coached Dépor in this division. The Basque even went so far as to confirm that he saved a matchball in Barcelona against Barça's reserve team, because a defeat would have led to his dismissal.

 

Álvaro García Diéguez was satisfied yesterday, after an event of the 'Dépor Genuine': "As a fan and also as president of the board of directors, I am happier than we were in other years, that is undoubted, because things are going well. But I'll stick with the coach's message, to take it game by game and we'll see where this leaves us at the end of the season."

 

Since they lost 1-0 at the Cultural's home ground on 14 January, everything has been joyful in a sporting key: three at home (2-0 against Ponferradina, 4-1 against Fuenlabrada and 4-1 against Tarazona) and as many as away (1-2 against Celta B, 0-5 against Logroñés and 0-4 against Osasuna B this Sunday). That's 21 goals scored in six games, at 3.5 per game. Translated into the standings, that Deportivo that struggled not so long ago is now second, with 47 points and just one behind Ponferradina, that is, from the first place in the group that marks direct promotion. If you look down, there would be a six-point difference with Cultural, the first team that would be out of the playoffs.

 

Nicolás Fedor, Miku, also a Dépor player for several seasons. He is someone who has a lot of affection for a city and a club that he always follows. The current number 9 of Academia Puerto Cabello in the Venezuelan First Division, which is playing in the Copa Libertadores, admits that Dépor's path in the Primera RFEF has always been very complex. "It has a First Division structure, it has higher salaries than many Second Division teams, it is a club with a lot of history and it carries a badge that weighs a lot for the players. On top of that, they are the opponent to beat since the start of the league. All the players of all the teams have the duel marked on the calendar to do their best, so that it has an impact and helps in their careers... For me it's the biggest difficulty, without a doubt," he says.

 

Richard Barral, the club's former sporting director, also participates in the debate: "Football is not mathematics and it is not just a factor. But I think there are two aspects that have helped the team to be in good shape now. In the bad moments, tranquility was maintained and no rupturist measures were taken. And secondly, there wasn't a single team that clearly left in the standings."

 

Dépor, in short, is the best team in the three main categories of Spanish football in 2024, with a record of seven wins (to all of the aforementioned must be added the one against Real Sociedad B in the first game of the year) and only one defeat. 21 points ahead of Real Madrid's 20 and Barça's 19. The year they won the league title, that glorious 2000, you could always see garlic heads in the corners that were taken in Riazor. Will we see them again from now on? The last teams to go on a six-game winning streak, Racing and Amorebieta, were promoted that season. A club, a fan base and a city are now dreaming of returning to professional football. Deportivo is alive.

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Veliko je govora o dresih zadnje dni. Bo zanimivo videt, kaj bo Laporta naglumil, vsekakor se mi pa zdi ta opcija, da bi imeli svoj lasten brand zelo tvegana v tem času, čeprav ne bom presenečen, če bi dolgoročno to postal trend med klubi. 

 

V preteklosti so med španskimi klubi podobno že naredili Athletic, Betis in Mallorca, a seveda noben od teh klubov nima globalnega trga na nivoju Barce.

 

 

FC Barcelona is analyzing all scenarios to make the best decision about which brand will manufacture its shirt next season. The Barça club has a contract with Nike until 2028 but relations with the North American firm are tense for different reasons. Among others, due to t-shirt supply problems; because there are 'bonus malus' that penalize the club's income; because Nike pays less than what other firms like Puma or New Balance offer Barça; and because the North American brand does not allow Barça to sell its technical products outside of Spain through 'e-commerce' (via the internet).
 

Barça has considered three options and the time is approaching to make a decision due to a timing issue: we have to get to work making the kits for next season. Those three options are: continue with Nike with better conditions; sign for another brand that offers more money and better conditions; and manufacture kits with its own brand and distribute and sell them directly.
 

The second and third of these options involve breaking up with Nike and entering into legal litigation. At Barça they do not rule it out and what they are conscientiously analyzing are the pros and cons that this breakup movement would represent. On the one hand, it would mean ending up paying an amount to compensate Nike; On the other hand, it would give Barça freedom to go with another technical sponsor or to become a producer of its own brand.
 

In the club's board there are very strong voices that advocate breaking with Nike and creating its own brand. In fact, this option has been looked at in detail, traveling and negotiating with firms that can afford to manufacture clothing for Barça due to the net profit it would generate. Another sector of the board prefers to continue with Nike as long as the American company offers more money and more freedom to Barça to sell kits. That, or go with a traditional brand like, for example, Puma, which pays more and frees the club from manufacturing and distributing the clothing. In any case, the decision should come in two weeks at most, as MD already advanced, and, yes, it should be ratified by the board of directors, especially if it is decided to break up with Nike.
 

[reder]

Riskantno, lahko se izkaže kot odlična poteza, lahko bo pa še zadnji žebelj v krsto. Zaenkrat mislim, da gre bolj za pritisk na Pumo/Nike, mogoče je pa res. Težko je pa biti pameten glede na to, da ne poznamo številk in kako bi vse skupaj logistično potekalo. Verjetno niso vsi ostali klubi brez razloga pri priznanih znamkah. 

[ronaldinho]

Ja, lahko smo neke vrste pionirji na tem področju, lahko pa gre tudi vse v racku. Sicer močno dvomim, da si sploh lahko privoščimo odškodnino, ki bi jo bilo treba plačati Nike-u za predčasno prekinitev pogodbe. 

 

 

 

also, Athletic in Mallorca v finalu Cope.

 

Kdorkoli bo zmagal bo šesti različni zmagovalec v zadnjih 6 sezonah.

 

2018/19 Valencia

2019/20 Sociedad

2020/21 Barca

2021/22 Betis

2022/23 Real

2023/24 Athletic/Mallorca

 

V tem času je bilo tudi 8 ekip v finalu. Samo Athletic (to bo njihov tretji finale, predhodna dva so izgubili), Valencia (2x) in Barca (2x) so bili več kot enkrat v finalu.

 

Za zanimivost tekmovanja res ena najboljših potez, kar jih je španski fuzbal naredil v zadnjem desetletju, da so pred sezono 19/20 spremenil format na eno izločilno tekmo v vseh fazah z izjemo polfinala. 

 

 

aja, Athletic lovi svoj prvi pokalni naslov po okroglih 40 letih. Zadnjič so zmagali v sezoni 1983/84, ko so prav tako tudi osvojili svoj zadnji ligaški naslov. Mallorca pa svojo edino pokalno lovoriko dobila v sezoni 2002/03, v 90. letih pa so še dvakrat igrali v finalu. 

1. marec 2024 uredilo bitje ronaldinho

[ronaldinho]

Frenkie naj bi se vrnil v najboljšem primeru po koncu reprezentančnega premora 30. marca doma proti Las Palmasu ali pa (če nekako pridemo čez Napoli) vsaj za prvo tekmo četrtfinala CL 9/10. aprila.

 

Pedri pa naj bi bil predvidoma out 5-6 tednov, kar verjetno itak pomeni, da je že zaključil sezono. 

[ronaldinho]

Poleti naj bi bil spet El Clasico v Murici in sicer na MetLife stadiumu v NJ.

[ronaldinho]

evo, prihaja zamenjava za Barca TV, predvidoma v začetku aprila

 

Barça One will start broadcasting in the next few weeks, and is the natural and necessary evolution of Barça TV+ that will ensure that the club stays at the forefront of the entertainment industry. The free service will be advertisement-based and will not require registration, but there will also be the option of paying to watch without advertising, which is something FC Barcelona members will get for free.

 

Barça One will be able to draw on over 1,500 hours of material from the Barça TV archives (games, shows, reports, historic content, etc.) as well as a new selection of programmes with the latest Barça info, including live broadcasts, press conferences, original content and much more.
 

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/club/news/3922757/barca-one-fc-barcelonas-new-free-streaming-platform-to-launch-with-araujo-documentary

 

https://www.fcbarcelona.com/en/barca-one

 

 

[reder]

Don Carlo davčna utaja, skoraj 5 let zapora zahteva tožilstvo. 

 

10 let nazaj je bila podobna novica za Messia afera nad aferami o kateri je govoril cel svet, sedaj je to rutinsko za vsakega fuzbalerja/trenerja. 

[ronaldinho]

Don Floro je mojster, da tovrstne zadeve hitro pomete pod preprogo.  

 

 

Julian Araujo bo like a new signing za naslednjo sezono. Deco je baje že odločen, da bo dobil priložnost, bomo videli, kaj bo rekel nov trener. Za Desta je medtem še naprej ideja, da se ga proda.

 

Menda so velike možnosti, da bo De La Fuente vpoklical Cubarsija za prijateljski tekmi s Kolumbijo in Brazilijo. Končni seznam bo objavljen 15. marca.

 

Ko sem že pri Cubarsiju, klub se pogaja za podaljšanje njegove pogodbe, ki se izteče leta 2026. To naj bi bila prioriteta, ker se okrog njega seveda vrti Pepček in tudi Chelsea, klavzulo ima pa samo 10m. Saj ne verjamem, da bi hotel oditi zdaj ko se je že tako uveljavil, veš pa nikoli ne. Prav tako potekajo pogajanja z agenti Forta in Guiu-ja, katerih pogodbe se iztečejo drugo leto. 

 

Laporta je včeraj povabil Mendesa k sebi domov na večerjo. Ta naj bi že prepričal Atletico, da podaljša posojo Felixa še za eno leto.  No, saj če je pod istimi pogoji in brez obveznega odkupa bi še sprejel, morda bo pa nov trener potegnil kaj več iz njega. Čeprav mi gre res na racku s svojo nekonstantnostjo. Ena odlična tekma in 9 slabih, nič vmes. 

 

Amorim bi bil res top izbira, ampak ne vem, kje bomo dobili 30m.  Čeprav verjetno boljše, da jih damo zanj kot pa za še kakšnega nesposobnega igralca.  

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/ruben-amorim-barcelona-liverpool-next-manager-b2507305.html

[reder]

Če karkoli plača za nakup/posojo Felixa bo več kot očitno, da Laporta dela za interes Mendesa, ne Barce. 

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reder reče pred 5 urami:

Don Carlo davčna utaja, skoraj 5 let zapora zahteva tožilstvo.

 

majkemi, da nikol ne bom razumel teh ljudi.

 

zasluži 10mil/sezono, v karieri je zaslužil preko 100mil, potem se pa drkajo s temi davčnimi optimizacijami in izigravajo sistem, zato da 'prišparajo' miljonček?

 

pa kdooooo je takoooo zabit, da se bo igral s tem (za njih) drobižem? prokleti peki požrtni...

6. marec 2024 uredilo bitje hawa meyta

[reder]

Ah kot da se oni obremenjujejo s tem. Njihov agent najame nekega računovodjo, ki se hoče čimbolj izkazati in to lahko naredi tako, da hodi po črti zakona. Je pa res, da bi jih do sedaj lahko izučilo.

6. marec 2024 uredilo bitje reder

[reder]

 

 

Pričakovano, ta klub nima dna. Mes que un club...

 

[Kakarotto]

Jesus fuck, kot da ni dovolj gnil posiljevalec Alves, pa vsaj ni bil več v klubu, ko je to ven prišlo, zdaj bomo še tega incela not vlačili. Dobro, prepričan sem, da so to čiste race. Bolje rečeno, upam, da so. 

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reder reče Dne, 6. 3. 2024 at 20:33:

Njihov agent najame nekega računovodjo, ki se hoče čimbolj izkazati in to lahko naredi tako, da hodi po črti zakona.

 

običajno je tako, kot praviš; njihovi agenti najamejo te lokalne davčne firme in potem mutijo po teh sivih zakonodajnih conah.

 

morajo pa imet Španci kar zastrašujočo davčno upravo, da se bolj ali manj tam vsi hitro predajo in plačajo kazen z obrestmi vred. v drugih Evropskih državah - ali imajo jasnejšo zakonodajo, ali pa delujejo bolj jebivetrsko. ne spomnim se, da bi bral, da so še v kakšni drugi evropski državi v tako kratkem času toliko celebritijev obrali za davčne peneze.

 

mimogrede, Carletto je že nakazal denar, ki ga je od njega zahtevala davčna uprava, zdaj se pa podaja v dokazovanje svoje nedolžnosti.

[ronaldinho]

Mika Faye naj bi bil vpoklican za današnjo tekmo z Mallorco. Kar pričakovano glede na to, da je Araujo suspendiran, Christensen pa zdaj igra DM.

 

Pa Deco baje "opazuje" Mortena Hjulmanda. Nice, dobili ga itak ne bomo.  

 

evo, že objavljen seznam, še naprej brez Sharka in Malonsa (njega se itak ne pogreša), je pa ob Faye-ju zraven tudi Unai Hernandez.  

 

8. marec 2024 uredilo bitje ronaldinho

[Karim]

slabo smo predvidevali, zveza zavrnila pritižbo Reala v zvezi Jude, suspenz velja za 2 tekmi. Skoda, da so takoj po tem reprezentance in ne bo nič kaj bolj spočit za Real. Proti Celti ga nebi smeli pogrešat, pogrešalo se ga bo na gostovanju pri Osasuni.

[ronaldinho]

Dve trenerski žrtvi danes.

 

Celta sackala Beniteza, nadomestil ga bo trener njihove B ekipe. Malo bedno, da to naredijo po porazu z Realom, prejšnje tekme so dobro igrali. Čeprav zdaj igrajo s Sevillo, po reprezentančni pavzi pa z Rayom, kar zna biti ena ključnih tekem za obstanek za njih in mogoče zato hočejo malo šok efekta.

 

Almeria pa odpustila Garitana. Dolgo so rabili, lol. 19 tekem brez zmage. Čeprav boljše igrajo zadnje čase, ampak so že zdavnaj odpisani. Mogoče bodo pa vsaj kakšno tekmo zmagali zdaj. Pepe Mel naj bi ga nadomestil in potem tudi imel šanso, da vodi ekipo v Segundi.  

[ronaldinho]

Barca naj bi dobila boj za dva bivša mulca Reala, katera je ta tudi želel dobiti nazaj.

 

Prvi je ofenzivni vezist Marcos Parriego (letnik 2006) iz Raya, zanj naj bi se ob Realu zanimal še City, drugi pa levi winger Byron Mendoza (l. 2009) iz Leganesa. 

 

Da vidimo, če bo kaj iz njih. 

 

[ronaldinho]

Laporta za 11:30 sklical nenapovedano tiskovko glede "strukturalnih sprememb" v klubu.

 

President Joan Laporta will appear this Thursday at 11:30 a.m. at the Auditori 1899 to explain changes in the structure of the Barça club. This was announced early this morning by FC Barcelona in a brief press release, without giving more details about the changes that have occurred in the entity.
 

Joan Laporta's appearance was not planned in advance and was taken by surprise due to the short time between the call to the media and the celebration of the event at the Auditori 1899. While waiting for Laporta's explanations, the club has several fronts open to resolve, such as the future of the shirt or the Super League project, which could be the reason for the appearance of the culé president.

 

It is also worth remembering that at the end of February, as we published in MD, the corporate director Maribel Meléndez left the club for personal reasons and there is still no replacement for the position, so Laporta could confirm the departure of one of the most important executives of the club and announce their replacement in the structure.

 

Verjetno je res to zadnje, pač nekaj ljudi v upravi se bo zamenjalo in to je to, nič posebej bistvenega.
 

[Shadow]

odstopu bo  

[ronaldinho]

evo, se že ve, kaj je

 

Eduard Romeu bo odstopil kot vicepresident. Šef za finance in kolikor sem spremljal njegove izjave edini človek, ki vsaj približno ve, kaj dela in ni izgubil stika z realnostjo. Slaba novica. 

 

Ta Laporta res na koncu vse sposobne ljudi spodi in jih nadomesti s svojimi amigosi. Je bilo že v prvem mandatu podobno, samo takrat so bili rezultati in ni nobenega preveč zanimalo. No, pa dovolj pameten je bil, da je Cruyffa poslušal. Zdaj njega ni več in zgleda izgubljen. 

 

 

 

 

[reder]

Je imel večino časa ob sebi vsaj Cruyffa, Pepa, Txiki-ja in Ferrana Soriana (pa verjetno še kdo, tisti Ingla a kaj je že bil), sedaj pa ti amaterji. No saj rezultati so vidni... Ne vem pa a se v ozadju za kandidaturo pripravlja kakšen sposoben človek.

[ronaldinho]

Victor Font, katerega prva naloga bo dati Xaviju doživljenjsko pogodbo.  

 

O Barci govorimo, možnost, da se bo našlo koga sposobnega je skoraj nična. Tako da še najboljše, da ostane Laporta, kljub vsem njegovim napakam. Samo naj mu nekdo pokaže koledar, da bo videl, da smo v letu 2024, ker on še vedno živi nekje leta 2008.

[reder]

Laporta je kakršen je in bo takole amatersko vodil klub dokler bo tu. Ne dvomim v njegove dobre namene ampak taki biznisi se v modernem svetu vodijo na drugačen način. Fonta poznamo le po kampaniji, ki je slonela na Xaviju, mogoče ima vseeno kakšne dobre ideje in veze. Je pa verjetno res Laporta vseeno najmanjše zlo, sploh če bi Rosell lansiral kakšnega kandidata da dokonča Bartovo delo. 

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ronaldinho reče pred 8 urami:

O Barci govorimo, možnost, da se bo našlo koga sposobnega je skoraj nična.

 

mene že zdaj glava boli kaj bo pri nas, ko bo šel stari v večna lovišča.