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Shadow reče pred 7 minutami:

to bodo sam Ineos in TJV oboji kr spokali iz TdFja, kr itak jim je Pogi ubil veselje :D 

 

Ineos bo kasiral za vsa Skyjeva leta, plus obresti. :D

 

kdorkoli se je resneje ukvarjal s sportom ve, kako kislo je, ko das od sebe vec kot si realno sposoben, pa si se vedno za 30% slabsi. 

 

v tem trenutku izgleda, da se Pogi dejansko dela norca iz vseh in se lahko vsakomur odpelje v katerem koli trenutku zeli. za svoje skoke v gorah ne potrebuje (niti) lastne ekipe in IMO je tega ostale ekipe dalec najbolj strah. ker tudi ce mu 'ubijes' ekipo, nisi naredil absolutno nic. 

 

 

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hawa meyta reče pred 48 minutami:

 

Ineos bo kasiral za vsa Skyjeva leta, plus obresti. :D

 

kdorkoli se je resneje ukvarjal s sportom ve, kako kislo je, ko das od sebe vec kot si realno sposoben, pa si se vedno za 30% slabsi. 

 

v tem trenutku izgleda, da se Pogi dejansko dela norca iz vseh in se lahko vsakomur odpelje v katerem koli trenutku zeli. za svoje skoke v gorah ne potrebuje (niti) lastne ekipe in IMO je tega ostale ekipe dalec najbolj strah. ker tudi ce mu 'ubijes' ekipo, nisi naredil absolutno nic. 

 

 

dejansko produkt k si ga je v zadnjih 10 letih lahko privoscil samo sky sedaj to uporabljajo se nekatere ekipe. 

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Ketones in the pro peloton

Not all pro cycling teams have come out about their ketone use but Geoffrey Woo, CEO of US-based ketone maker, HVMN, told The Draft two of the most successful teams at the Tour this year –  the Dutch team Jumbo-Visma and Belgium’s Deceuninck-QuickStep – had riders drinking HVMN’s bitter little ketone ester bottles before and during race stages.

(Scribe’s note: I’ve tried them – they share the bitterness of the foulest medicine. But hey, performance gains require sacrifice right? Woo describes the concoction as a “stiff cocktail”, adding his lab lords are working hard to tweak the formulation and make it a tad easier on the tongue and tonsils.)

Jumbo-Visma team manager Richard Plugge opened up about his team’s use of ketones during the Tour, telling Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf: “Ketones are a dietary supplement. You can use them just like vitamins. The substance is not on the prohibited list, and it’s also known that other teams use ketones.”

Ketone researcher professor Peter Hespel, head of exercise physiology at the Catholic University of Leuven in Belgium, said ketone ester drinks were “probably a piece of the puzzle” in the success of Deceuninck-QuickStep.

Ketone questions

But not everyone is backing the nascent nutrient – just yet anyway. While not banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) some critics have likened it to a doping product. Cycling’s global governing body, the Union Cycliste International (UCI), has said it is monitoring ketone use. Other teams want to see more safety and efficacy data from the research community.

French team Arkea-Samsic team doctor, Jean Jacques Menuet, told AFP. “I don’t want to receive a letter in 10 years from a rider telling me that his liver is ruined.”

Mark Tallon, PhD, managing director of UK firm, Legal Foods, a nutritionist and someone who has himself competed in Ironman events, says more efficacy data is needed.

“There may be benefits in glycogen sparing but if current nutritional strategies like carb intake address this then we need to see data that ketones outstrip carbohydrates as a recovery aid,” he said.

“Over the distance and intensities of the Tour de France I am not a believer at this time based on the available data that supplemental ketones are more effective than carbs for recovery and or performance.”

Legal status

The fact ketone esters have only been on-sale for a couple of years and are only approved for sale in one country – the US – adds to their mystique. Then consider ketones nonetheless being spotted in the pro peloton since at least 2015 – often accompanied by bizarre denials and secrecy as to where the products were being sourced from.

HVMN’s Oxford-based ketone ester supplier, TDeltaS, lodged an EU Novel Foods application several years ago, but the EU’s food science agency has yet to hand in its verdict on that dossier, and so ketone esters remain banned across the EU’s 28 member states.

So buying ketones becomes an issue given they can only legally ship within the US. Frank Llosa, the owner of another US-based ketones maker, KetoneAid, told us teams and individuals often purchased products through third parties based in the US and then had them couriered to Europe or elsewhere.

Wallets out…

Adding to that logistical hurdle is their price. One 65ml HVMN bottle containing 25g of ketone esters costs about £25. Hefty, although the manufacturers advise a single bottle can serve multiple occasions and deliver performance gains depending on the individual, timing of the dose, other nutritional inputs and the type of activity being engaged in.

TDeltaS says an impending production scale-up will significantly lower the cost of its corn-sourced ketone ester, by as much as half.

Woo is looking forward to expanded distribution in the US outside its own website.

“Selling in mainstream outlets like supermarkets and pharmacies is our goal,” he said. “We expect people will be choosing ketone drinks over cola in five years.”

He said there are three fundamental demographics buying HVMN: professional and serious athletes; body toners and health and wellness adherents.

Emerging research has indicated nootropic benefits, and Woo said many HVMN buyers used the products in work environments to boost cognitive performance.

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