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Weraziel reče pred 7 urami:

Misliš ta norija, ki traja že odkar so prvi Superman stripi izšli?

Kjer pokroviteljski odgovor. A mamo slab dan? :D

 

Ne, govorim o n-ti verziji Batmana ali Spidermana. Če bi naredili kej v zvezi s Supermanom, bi dejansko prinesli malo svežine v žanr.

Upajmo, da bo Wolverine kej vreden, samo po moje bo spet zgolj pandering ameriškim najstnikom in odraslim otrokom.

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Galko reče pred 13 urami:

Sej nisem mislil nic slabega, jst sem tud fan :)

 

Keri so ti najjači walkerji? Meni je zares presežek Edith Finch, ta se mi je zdel da res proba fejst inovirat, pa tud overall mi je bil zlo cool. Pa Death Stranding mi je bil izjemen, sam dobr, to je IMO že drug žanr.


Edith Finch pa Ethan Carter recimo, dobri so mi bli tud Gone home, Everybody gone to the rupture, Firewatch, meh mi je bla pa Virginia

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ke_kit reče pred 57 minutami:

Kjer pokroviteljski odgovor. A mamo slab dan? :D

 

Ne, govorim o n-ti verziji Batmana ali Spidermana. Če bi naredili kej v zvezi s Supermanom, bi dejansko prinesli malo svežine v žanr.

Upajmo, da bo Wolverine kej vreden, samo po moje bo spet zgolj pandering ameriškim najstnikom in odraslim otrokom.

Aja ti tko misliš. Pomoje je lažje Spideya pa Batmana dat v špil kot kej drugega. 

 

Ni blo mišljeno pokroviteljsko. Američani bodo mel potrebo po takih špilih ker se to prodaja in ker nikakor ne umre. Itak je to del njihove moderne kulture (pač zadnjih 100 let)

 

Se pa strinjam s tabo

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Weraziel reče pred 10 urami:

Aja ti tko misliš. Pomoje je lažje Spideya pa Batmana dat v špil kot kej drugega. 

 

Ni blo mišljeno pokroviteljsko. Američani bodo mel potrebo po takih špilih ker se to prodaja in ker nikakor ne umre. Itak je to del njihove moderne kulture (pač zadnjih 100 let)

 

Se pa strinjam s tabo

Ja, je pa vendarle razlika med dojemanje superjunakov pred in po MCU. Saj poglej katerikoli najstniški ZDA film nekje do 2005, vedno so jocki tepli geeke in ljubitelje stripov po šolah, prikazovalo se jih je kot top inceste, vredne posmeha

 

Pol je bil huge spin in smo geeki naenkrat postali cool v filmih, seksalo se je najbolj dobre bejbike na šoli in poniževalo low IQ jocke

 

Zdaj pa so itak mladinski filmi o iskanju prave gej ljubezni, tako da smo geeki in jocki dani na stranski tir :D 

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Hernire reče Pravkar:

Ja, je pa vendarle razlika med dojemanje superjunakov pred in po MCU. Saj poglej katerikoli najstniški ZDA film nekje do 2005, vedno so jocki tepli geeke in ljubitelje stripov po šolah, prikazovalo se jih je kot top inceste, vredne posmeha

 

Pol je bil huge spin in smo geeki naenkrat postali cool v filmih, seksalo se je najbolj dobre bejbike na šoli in poniževalo low IQ jocke

 

Zdaj pa so itak mladinski filmi o iskanju prave gej ljubezni, tako da smo geeki in jocki dani na stranski tir :D 

Mogoče jaz to drugače dojemam, ker so Wu-Tangi že leta '93 rapali "swinging through your hood like the neighborhood spiderman", Ghost je bil Ironman (tud njegov prvi solo projekt se tko imenuje), Method Man je bil Johnny Blaze

 

v rapu so stripovski junaki vsaj že 30 let cool, kasneje je pa še MF DOOM uletel in bil villain rapa

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Jaz se spomnim, da Biggie namedropa Super Nintendo in Sega Genesis in da mi je to takrat bilo crazy

 

Drgač to je pomoje ravno zaradi tega, ker tudi rap ni bil mainstream, potem pa se kakšne družbene skupine bolj povežejo s tem. Tudi Dragon Ball je skos imel oboževalce z roba (temnopolte skupnosti, druge rasne manjšine, pol baje na japonskem ful žensk gleda Dragon Ball, kar je tudi neobičajno za deško shonen serijo)

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ja ampak lih Wuji in Biggie so bli huge tisti čas =) 93-97 era je bla top

 

also k smo že lih pri rapu in špilih, RZA je flipnil melodijo nekega špila (mislm da je od Golden Axe, samo nisem siguren)

 


Samo zato ker so mainstream filmi skos kucal po folku k so igral D&D, bral stripe in igračkal igrice, to nič ne pomeni. Sej Hollywood je tud skos delal filme, kjer so Američani good guys, ki rešujejo svet pa je jasno, da so večkrat destabilizirali kako državo kot da so priskočili kam na pomoč :D 

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Weraziel reče pred 1 minuto:

Samo zato ker so mainstream filmi skos kucal po folku k so igral D&D, bral stripe in igračkal igrice, to nič ne pomeni. Sej Hollywood je tud skos delal filme, kjer so Američani good guys, ki rešujejo svet pa je jasno, da so večkrat destabilizirali kako državo kot da so priskočili kam na pomoč :D 

Seveda, ampak sentiment do superjunaških filmov pred MCU in po je res gigantsko drugačen no

 

FFS mi kolegi, ki dejtajo, neironično razlagajo, da jim dandanes na zmenkih padajo lajni ala "a gledaš Marvel filme?" 

 

Ne se jebat, da so še 15 let nazaj v rupi na nekih random zmenkih padali taki lajni, ker niso :D. MCU je superjunake prinesel v mainstream za ene 100x tok kot karkoli pred njimi

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Keaton Batman filma in Blade trilogija - to je blo kr popularno. Spidermani so bli še bolj popularni. Batman Animated Series najvišje ocenjena risanka iz 90tih.

 

Sej drži, da se je spremenilo, ampak samo zato ker zdej tud mainstream publika ve kdo so Captain America, kdo je Deadpool in kdo je Harley Quinn, ne pa kot da ni blo ogromno fanov že prej - navsezadnje stripovska industrija still going strong. Pomoje večina folka k je gledala Marvel filme ni prebrala enga Marvel stripa, niso nikoli hodili vsake 2 tedna v bodego kupit novo edicijo,... ampak dost folka pa to je počelo.

 

Jaz to enačim z Game of Thrones. Vsi, ki smo brali, smo praktično nardili več k 50% hypa za to serijo. GRRM je bil spoštovan pisec med znalci, ne samo zaradi ASOIAF, tud Tuf Voyajing, Fevre Dream,... tko da neka orenk publika je že bla tam. Samo potem rata GOT kulturni fenomen... isto je blo z Marvel. Popularno je že blo, potem je samo še ratalo bl mainstream od mainstreama.

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to da se ne strinjam s tem, da je šele MCU naredil geekovsko kulturo kul

 

pač semantika, to da se Hollywood dela da so geeki pičke k jih je treba pretepat nima veze z realnostjo, če imaš velik variacije kdo vse je igral igrice, bral stripe, sci-fi, grafične romane itd...

 

ker npr. tud Big Bang Theory je začel izhajat pred prvim Ironman filmom in je bil geekovski show za mainstream

 

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Geeki so bili vedno kul, še pred igricami in filmi.

 

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Navedek

Geeks are not a new phenomenon — they've been around for decades! Take a look at how geeks have changed.

1920s
“The word ‘geek' originates from the Latin word geck, which means ‘a fool or freak,'” Brahm Wiseman from Heroes Comics (186 Dundas St.) explained. The word was first used in the 1920s to describe circus sideshow acts that would perform bizarre acts like biting the heads oˆ of small animals and eating live insects.

1950s
In the '50s, “geek” was adopted into post-World War II slang, and came to mean “a person who is extremely interested and knowledgeable about computers, electronics, technology, and gadgets.” Geeks often worked as engineers and scientists, developing these machines out of pure passion.

By now, this word had planted its roots firmly into culture and its meaning would continue to be shaped for years to come.

1960s
By the 1960s, the word geek was starting to gain popularity in pop culture. It was not only used to describe someone interested in technology, but its meaning had expanded to include anyone who was intelligent, especially in the fields of math and science. Geeks were infiltrating college campuses and starting their own academic clubs and fraternities. They were seen now as the short-sleeved shirted, pocket-protector wearing, comic book reading, asthma-puˆer inhaling, four-eyed classic geeks that are parodied in countless television shows and movies.

1970s
The show Happy Days had huge influence on popularizing the word geek, using it many times to pick on their nerdier friend and describe the uncool kids.

By now, geeks were getting much more involved in hobbies like trading cards, tabletop games and fantasy novels to transport them to other lands. It was a great time for geek culture: Dungeons and Dragons was released in 1974 and Star Trek and Star Wars were released to a massive following of geek fans. Geeks began dressing up as their favourite characters and snapping up all the action figures, lunchboxes other memorabilia they could get their hands on. Now, the word shifted its meaning again, and now included any geek who had a strong passion for science fiction.

1980s
Geek culture was at an all-time high in the '80s, and for the first time, much of geek culture was embraced by others.

Video games started to become very popular during this time, and from this came a new kind of geek: the gamer. Geeks began filling up arcades, spending an allowance's worth of quarters and buying the newest Atari and Nintendo systems to play at home. The geeks' new pride was being the guy who mastered the game and had their high scores posted in magazines.

With computers slowly becoming readily available in middle-class households, geeks were trying their hand at mastering these machines. Movies like WarGames, Ferris Bueller's Day O and Weird Science showed average teens as “hackers,” breaking into secure government databases, changing their grades and, somehow, creating women. People began to emulate these computer whizzes and the computer geek was born.

1990s
At this point, computers were no longer just huge paperweights; they were becoming much more complex. Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniack were busy designing their Microsoft and Apple products, showing the world the full potential of what computers could do. These geeks broke away from the white-collar approach to working on computers, having long hair and wearing flip-flops and shorts year round. They took the industry by storm, making millions of dollars very quickly and are considered pioneers in the field, dubbed the Pirates of Silicon Valley. Many geeks realized the future was in computers and started getting jobs in website design and IT.

With the Internet boom, Geeks were not only making tons of money, but also sharing ideas and swapping information on message boards and forums. People being able to talk to each other across the globe gave way for music and movie geeks, who could discuss their favorite albums and films online.

Geeks now
“Geeks were seen as sociably acceptable” beginning in the 2000s, according to Wiseman, and they have become the driving force behind modern life. Everything from your o�ce to your home is run daily by computers, which rely on geeks to develop and maintain them.

Now, geekdom has become an inescapable part of our culture: many average people have chosen a side in the Mac vs. PC war and will defend it proudly; superhero movies rake in millions of dollars at the box o�ce on a regular basis; and online role-playing games like World of Warcraft and Call of Duty are drawing players from around the world.

You might even call ‘hipsters' the newest evolution of the geek. They wear the “geek chic” look, including thick glasses and quirky outfits, and snag the newest technology as soon as it comes out. They're interested in obscure culture, trying to find movies and music that are far away from the mainstream before anyone hears about it.

The word (geek) is no longer considered an insult; it's used to describe someone who has a passion for a particular interest. “The word has been distinguished over the years as something that is quite cool,” said Wiseman.

 

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Weraziel reče pred 7 urami:

Keaton Batman filma in Blade trilogija - to je blo kr popularno. Spidermani so bli še bolj popularni. Batman Animated Series najvišje ocenjena risanka iz 90tih.

 

Sej drži, da se je spremenilo, ampak samo zato ker zdej tud mainstream publika ve kdo so Captain America, kdo je Deadpool in kdo je Harley Quinn, ne pa kot da ni blo ogromno fanov že prej - navsezadnje stripovska industrija still going strong. Pomoje večina folka k je gledala Marvel filme ni prebrala enga Marvel stripa, niso nikoli hodili vsake 2 tedna v bodego kupit novo edicijo,... ampak dost folka pa to je počelo.

 

Jaz to enačim z Game of Thrones. Vsi, ki smo brali, smo praktično nardili več k 50% hypa za to serijo. GRRM je bil spoštovan pisec med znalci, ne samo zaradi ASOIAF, tud Tuf Voyajing, Fevre Dream,... tko da neka orenk publika je že bla tam. Samo potem rata GOT kulturni fenomen... isto je blo z Marvel. Popularno je že blo, potem je samo še ratalo bl mainstream od mainstreama.

 

You what? Dobesedno vsi jokajo o orenk padcih prodaje?

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A ni npr. Darlin' and her other names ful uspešn letos? TMNT Last Ronin in Amazing Spider sta se tud kr prodajala. Ajde, lahko da dandanes stane ogromno več keša da nekaj izide (predvidevam), ampak comic books in tudi mange se še vedno prodajajo. Ni kot da čez bo deset let to totalno umrlo.

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ke_kit reče Dne, 9. 11. 2023 at 13:58:

Upam, da capeshit norija čim prej mine.


Pa sej je "capesiht" igric, ki jih je vredno igrati na uč ene 10
ultimate alliance, arkham 1-3, vulvarin origins, en spuderman iz ps1 ere in spuderman2 (ps5)

Isto je pri zombi igricah. Jih je bilo ogromno, ampak 80+ materiala je bilo pa res malo

 

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